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PlayStation 4 will launch globally in 2013, GameStop veep claims

Retailer allays fears that the PS4 won't come to Europe until next year

 

A senior official at retailer GameStop has proclaimed that the Sony PS4 console will launch globally in 2013, something the manufacturer is yet to do.

When Sony announced the PS4 with a "Holiday 2013" release date it did not offer a specific timeframe nor indicate whether the launch would be staggered - as Sony has done in the past - across the various territories.

Recent rumours suggested that the console wouldn't be arriving in Europe until 2014, but GameStop's Michael Hogan has revealed, perhaps inadvertently, that everything is on track for this year.

The company's vice president of strategy business and brand development said in a conference call with financial investors: "We know that Sony will introduce the PlayStation 4 globally in 2013, but we are still waiting to see what Microsoft's final plans are."

 

European complexities?

 

Rumours earlier this month have suggested that Sony would launch in the United States and Japan by the end of the year, but the European roll-out would have to wait until 2014.

The rumours had cited so-called "complexities involved in European distribution" as the reason for holding back.

Whether that was ever the case remains to be seen, but if Hogan's comments are on the money, you can all get the PS4 on that letter to Santa once again.

We expect to hear more about the official PS4 release date schedule at E3 in May and, who knows, perhaps we'll even get a glimpse of the actual console too!

Source: http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/consoles/playstation-4-will-launch-globally-in-2013-gamestop-boss-claims-1141718

 

 

 

 

Shuhei Yoshida confirms PS3 digital titles 'won't transfer' to PS4

 

Painful truth for those with an extensive digital catalogue on PlayStation 3 through PlayStation Network as Sony Worldwide Studios president Shuhei Yoshida admits, as of now, they won't transfer.

 

PS3 titles are already admitted to not be supported by PS4, although they'd try to get them playable "in some form." Their architecture is vastly different, so PS3 games would be emulated.

 

The trouble is they can only think of working with those PS3 titles that wouldn't suck away all system resources in being emulated, but all this is "longer term" stuff.

Source: http://www.strategyinformer.com/news/21950/shuhei-yoshida-confirms-ps3-digital-titles-wont-transfer-to-ps4

 

Games and content bought on PS3 won't be compatible with the PS4. The same goes for 'save' files, says Shuhei Yoshida, Sony Worldwide Studios president, at a interview with journalists at this thursday (21) in New York.

 

Yoshida says that the PS4 instructure is different from the previous consoles and that Sony don't want to drain the emulation processing power.

 

It gets clear that at least on first moments, PS4 won't have any backwards compatibility with PS3 content. Nevertheless Sony claim to offer some support to previous consoles on the future.

Source: http://jogos.uol.com.br/ultimas-noticias/2013/02/21/compras-feitas-na-psn-no-playstation-3-nao-serao-compativeis-com-ps4.htm

 

 

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Nematau kažkokios problemos kodėl ps4 neturėtu kartu pasirodyti su USA ir JAP, kuom europa išskirtinė kad reiktų laukti dar kone puse metų ar metus

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USA, JAP - dvi šalys, o EU daugiau darbo reikia įdėt, šalių tai daug. Marketingas, platinimas, o dar įvairiom kalbom reikia viską padaryti. Kaip citatoje buvo rašoma: "complexities involved in European distribution". Suprantama, kodėl gali vėluoti, bet tokia milžiniška kompanija kaip Sony galėtų ir labiau pasistengti.

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EPIC sako kad ps4 tai lyg pagerintas PC. kai pagalvoji kad ir windows naudot ir zaist vis dar galima ir su 2gb ram. o cia tiek ramu bus ir ne OS skirta o dedikuota grynai zaidimui naudot..

 

Epic Games VP Mark Rein certainly loves the console, as he said to CVG this week:

 

 

“I think it’s a very smart move on Sony’s behalf to build this sort of enhanced PC architecture and then put so much in it.”

“Let’s not forget it has 16 times the memory we had in PlayStation 3 – that’s not insignificant. Knowing that every machine has that… we can do crazy, ridiculous stuff with that. The other exciting thing is that… when you think about Windows, even Windows for most people is tied to about 2GB of addressable memory space. This really opens up beyond what most PCs can do, because most PCs are running a 32-bit version of Windows.”

 

“I’ve always said that the things in the next-generation that aren’t just brute force hardware are all about the service and simplicity of the experience– the things that make it as fun and easy to get a PS4 game as it is to get a game on your iPad.”

 

- Epic Games co-founder Mark Rein/font>

Gamestop issigande naujo xbox galimo "no used games" draudimo ..vis daugiau lipa i PS4 darza.. :melvin:

 

34% of respondents to a GameStop poll say that their most-desired electronic device this year is the Playstation 4, beating out such heavy-hitters as “smartphones” and “tablets”.

 

“We know that Sony will introduce the PlayStation 4 globally in 2013, but we are still waiting to see what Microsoft’s final plans are.”

“We have scenarios with one console introduction, as well as with two. Even a single launch in 2013 will drive double-digit console growth in 2014; and two launches, as noted above, would likely drive the console category north of 20% growth.”

 

- GameStop CFO Robert A. Lloyd

ko cia toks gamestopu susidomejimas..matyt nori isskirtiniu pardavimo teisiu gaut ..ar pirmu zaidimu visokiu special leidimu. Redagavo scalman

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o gal padarys kad ir EU gaus, tik skirsis ant keliu dienų, nes iki to laiko dar gali viskas pasikeisti

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The Sun thinks the PS4 is coming in October

04 Apr, 2013

 

According to a reporter for the highly popular British newspaper, The Sun, the Playstation 4 is coming in October and will cost around ?300.

 

Both statements are included in a recent interview with SCEA's Andrew House - ?talking about the PS4 "believed to be coming out in October." The reporter states no source.

 

The article continues: "experts believe (the PS4) ?could retail for about ?300" Once again stating no source.?

 

With no source and no means of backing up these claims, you probably shouldn't believe them.?

 

In the interview House, he states that while Sony is looking to reach out to the hardcore gaming community with its new machine, while trying not to forget about the wider market.

 

"I think the key is to have people and increasingly women ? with different sensibilities creating different games. It is not all about shoot ?em up games," said House.

 

Sony's Playstation 4 will be out somewhere in 2013. No release date or official pricing has been set for the console yet.?

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The Sun thinks the PS4 is coming in October

04 Apr, 2013

 

According to a reporter for the highly popular British newspaper, The Sun, the Playstation 4 is coming in October and will cost around ?300.

 

Both statements are included in a recent interview with SCEA's Andrew House - ?talking about the PS4 "believed to be coming out in October." The reporter states no source.

 

The article continues: "experts believe (the PS4) ?could retail for about ?300" Once again stating no source.?

 

With no source and no means of backing up these claims, you probably shouldn't believe them.?

 

In the interview House, he states that while Sony is looking to reach out to the hardcore gaming community with its new machine, while trying not to forget about the wider market.

 

"I think the key is to have people and increasingly women ? with different sensibilities creating different games. It is not all about shoot ?em up games," said House.

 

Sony's Playstation 4 will be out somewhere in 2013. No release date or official pricing has been set for the console yet.?

 

The Sun, tai bulvarinis slamstas, isvis nieko is ten nereik tiket.

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gandai pasileido kad Sony gali padaryt dar viena press konfa ir pilna PS4 pristatyma dar iki E3. gali but dar si menesi ar kita :working:

 

Sony may have a second PlayStation 4-specific event leading up to E3 2013. The company is rumored to be making “a big announcement” sometime this month or in May, according to a PCMag.com source.

 

What exactly Sony intends to show – assuming an event is indeed planned – is unclear at the moment. However, PCMag does note that it will be a “full-blown launch of the PS4.” Sony would still likely save a few things for E3 given that the expo isn’t too far off.

 

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kai kurie devai kurie turejo ankstyvus PS4 devkitus net nezinojo kad konsole tures 8gb ram ,nes pas juos buvo tik 4gb . tai na maloniai aisku suzinot kad ramu padvigubino .ir na tai kas buvo rodyta tai galia ten but kurta ir su dvigubai maziau ramu devkitais dar.

 

Here’s an interesting tidbit for you: Sony didn’t tell any third party developers about the sizable 8GB of RAM that their upcoming PS4 has until the public knew via their ‘Playstation Meeting 2013′. When they made that announcement, those that didn’t have the latest dev kit thought that they would get 4GB to play with– still a very significant amount– and quite a few of them were very surprised to hear they’d have twice the toys to play with.

killzone devai sako kad PS4 kurtas taip kad bottlenecku nebutu.aisku cia tobula situacija butu jei tikrai niekas nieko nestabdytu. na kurejam geriau.o kai kurejam geriau tai zaidimai geresni ir nuo to mum geriau aisku.

 

The PlayStation 4 has been so carefully designed that developers won't find a performance bottleneck, Michiel Van Der Leeuw, technical director at Guerrilla Games, has told Edge.

 

"The fact that the best pieces of hardware are also devised from, or optimised versions of, the stuff we find in PCs doesn't make it any less a console," Van Der Leeuw explained. "A PC is a number of parts that also [have] bridges in-between, where there are inefficiencies that may [come in if they're not] exactly the right match."

 

But with the PS4, Sony has - allegedly - been able to ensure these inefficiencies don't exist.

 

Van Der Leeuw continued: "We've got the right amount of memory, video card; everything's balanced out. It was a very conscious effort to make sure that – with the speed of the memory, the amount of compute units, the speed of the hard drive – there would not be any bottlenecks.

 

"I think it was for more than a year that we knew the main ingredients and there was just discussion after discussion trying to find a bottleneck. Take a look at this design; try to find the bottleneck."

aisku sony turi devu kurie nera kure nieko skirto PC tai jie zino tik PS3 devkitus iki siol ir aisku jiem PS4 tai cia kosmosas galimybiu iskart sprogo.. :megusta: dabar kol sugalvos ka su tuo visku daryt galima :spiderp: be to sie kurejai dalyvavo dalinai DS4 pultelio kurime.

 

Evolution Studios has admitted that working on PS3 for so long meant that it wasn't exposed to the developments in graphics technology for PCs, meaning it had to play catch-up when moving onto PlayStation 4.

 

Asked by Edge magazine about the PS4's specification, Evolution technical director Scott Kirkland said:

 

"With it being a very contemporary GPU core, [there's] a whole bunch of new graphics features probably familiar to PC developers, but we've spent a lot of time in PS3 land, so we had to play catch-up on some of those great things like texture varieties, hardware instancing, volume textures, tessellation, texture compression.

 

"They're all really cool features that we're leveraging in all sorts of interesting ways."

 

Kirkland is also pretty pleased with what else the PS4 has to offer.

 

"The CPU part of things, having that asymmetrical architecture, that made it really easy for us to gain great performance from the outset," he explained.

 

"The Play-Go initiative, which Mark Cerny [PS4 lead architect] spoke about, those are discussions we've been heavily involved in. Combined with the Blu-ray disc for physical delivery, the hard drive is going to allow us to deliver awesome experiences to players in a fraction of the load times and download times that players experienced on PS3 and [360]. So we're really excited about that. We think it'll be a real differentiator."

 

Evolution Studios is currently working on Driveclub, which is expected to launch alongside the PS4.

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Killzone developer defends PS4 hardware against PC 'trolls'

 

Guerilla Games' Technical Director Michiel Van Der Leeuw has batted away claims that the PlayStation 4 is little more than a high-end PC in a games console package.

 

"The fact that the best pieces of [PS4] hardware are also devised from, or optimised versions of, the stuff we find in PCs doesn't make it any less a console," the Killzone man told Edge.

 

He then talked more specifically about members of the gaming community who have accused the PS4 of being just a PC in console clothing: "That's difficult because people are trolling, right. What do you say to a troll? You don't feed the trolls, that'll make them grow."

 

Don't feed the trolls. It's valid advice. Of course, it makes sense for Leeuw to defend the console as he then went on to explain how Guerilla Games played an instrumental role in the creation of the PS4, including making at least five changes to the graphics chip, CPU and bandwidth between components.

 

"I think it was for more than a year that we knew the main ingredients and there was just discussion after discussion trying to find a bottleneck," he said, revealing that Guerilla ran Killzone 3 and early Killzone 4 art assets through simulators to test prospective hardware.

 

Behind the scenes

 

Debate has raged over the PS4's specs ever since it was announced, with both Nvidia and the console's CPU/GPU provider - AMD - attacking and defending certain components to TechRadar at different junctures. Leeuw's comments, despite his troll warning, should add even more fuel to the fire.

 

Also revealed by Edge was that Evolution Studios, the team behind MotorStorm and the upcoming DriveClub, played a significant part in putting the PS4 together too - namely on its DualShock 4 controller

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"We were instrumental in securing the specific gyro components that [will] go in the DualShock 4," said Evolution's Technical Director Scott Kirkland, explaining that the company wanted controllers with high frequency gyros. It also helped shape the triggers and analogue sticks.

 

"So we put a very compelling case forward to the guys in Japan, they listened and they're the components that are in the DualShock 4."

 

The controller's triggers were developed alongside input from Guerilla, but Kirkland admitted there had to be some "compromise" between the studios over how they should function and feel.

 

"But the controller sits on the desk beautifully," he said. "It doesn't accidentally press the triggers, [and] they've got really nice resistance to them."

 

 

Source: http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/consoles/killzone-developer-defends-ps4-hardware-against-pc-trolls--1143537

 

Kaip Evulution Studios fanboy'us - smagu girdeti, kad jie prisidejo prie pacio galutinio produkto :$

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